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‘Stargate’ Opens Floodgates

As 'Atlantis' Bows Out, Sci Fi Franchise Heads to New 'Universe'

By Kent Gibbons -- Multichannel News, August 23, 2008

At Sci Fi Channel, the cycle went like this the last few days: cancel Stargate Atlantis on Wednesday, suffer the slings and arrows of outraged loyal fans  — and then announce Friday the creation of a brand new Stargate Universe next year.

“It's kind of hard to cancel one, but it's good news to announce a new one,” Dave Howe, the network's president, said on Friday.

Stargate AtlantisFor producer MGM Domestic Television and NBC Universal-owned Sci Fi, the Stargate franchise is big business, one that has now expanded beyond one-hour series to also include two-hour movie “events.”

Atlantis, now five episodes into its fifth 20-episode season, wraps next January but will be followed by a two-hour movie Sci Fi has green-lighted for 2009.

There could be more Atlantis movies after that, as MGM has produced two so far extending the original Stargate SG-1 franchise after it ended a 10-year run of new episodes on cable (lastly on Sci Fi) in 2007.

“I think these things lend themselves to a bigger, kind of high-production-value, two hour event, which is great,” Howe said of Atlantis.

When the network canceled Stargate SG-1, fans reacted sharply, but Sci Fi had already put the spinoff Atlantis on the schedule.

This time, the network not only had the promise of continued life for the show in the form of at least one followup movie — it also said it will have a replacement show from the same creators (Brad Wright and Robert C. Cooper) on the schedule next year.Stargate Universe will start with a two-hour movie early next year. Over the summer it will join the weekly schedule, with 18 more one-hour episodes to follow the movie.

Those moves may have muted the fans' reaction to the cancellation — but not completely. One barometer: an online petition to save the show had close to 1,000 signatures the morning after the cancellation news broke at night. By 1 p.m. Friday it had 3,774 names.

“There's no sign of a letup in my e-mail inbox, I can tell you,” Howe said in a telephone interview from England Friday. “I've had to get on with IT because it is so clogged up with e-mails to 'Save Atlantis.'

“There's obviously a passionate audience for Atlantis and the characters of Atlantis,” Howe said. “And yes, they're absolutely going to continue in the movie franchise. But people need to mourn for a while and come to terms with it. I don't anticipate that that will subside quickly. But once Universe is on air and they have kind of their next fix of the Stargate franchise, I think hopefully people will realize that it's in safe hands at Sci Fi, that we really value this franchise and it's in our interest and the fans' interest to let us continue the story and figure out how to retell it for a new audience every few years.”

“I think there's a natural life to each of the chapters of the story,” Howe said of the series that fed off the 1994 movie with Kurt Russell and James Spader and launched on Showtime with a name star, Richard Dean Anderson.

“What we endeavor to do each time is to introduce the franchise to a new audience, make it a bit more contemporary, more relatable,” he said. The ambition with Universe is to skew it younger than the previous two chapters and fill it with a fresh-faced cast; and a storytelling that is more for the late 2000s than it is for the 1990s.”

Sci Fi shows such as Eureka and Ghost Hunters have surpassed the Stargate series in viewer numbers, but hit Battlestar Galactica has proven there's significant life in the “space-opera” genre. Battlestar is in its fourth and last season on Sci Fi. A “prequel” to it, called Caprica, could join the schedule as a new series, but for now is only scheduled as a two-hour movie.

“What's unique about this [Stargate] chapter is it's going to be set entirely in space,” Howe said. SG-1 was based on Earth, and Atlantis was set on a base in another galaxy. Universe will be based on a ship called the Destiny.

“That's also an opportunity for us because as Battlestar Galactica reaches a conclusion, it's nice for us to have within the mix of programming a space opera that serves the audience that's really into space operas,” he said.

The myth of the series concerns a device that transports present-day people to different planets or galaxies. The new series also will be set in the present day, as humans discover a space vessel designed to travel between galaxies where the stargate portals have been placed. And then the crew members aboard the Destiny learn they can't return to Earth.

Joseph Mallozzi, one of two show runners on Atlantis, noted in his blog last Friday that rising production costs and a steep climb in the Canadian dollar relative to the U.S. dollar were among the factors that stacked the odds against a renewal. Multichannel News reported in 2006 that the original series, SG-1, cost at least $2 million per episode in U.S. dollars its final year.

Atlantis's ratings had declined from an average of more than 3 million for the very first 10 episodes, in 2004, to about 2.1 million viewers for the four episodes this season that also include seven-day recorded viewing. The current season, though, ratings were up versus the second half of season four.

Howe said the plan is to produce Universe in Vancouver — “the good news is the greenback is bouncing back” — and said it would have high production values, which he said the fans expect.

Mallozzi said on his blog the 100th and final Atlantis episode, contrary to some online speculation, would not end with a cliffhanger.

“Regardless of whether we got the pick-up or not, we had always planned a clean conclusion to our 100th episode, one that would hopefully leave fans satisfied yet eager for more,” he posted. “And that 'more' will come in the form of the Stargate Atlantis movie.”

Mallozzi and co executive producer Paul Mullie will write the movie, Sci Fi and MGM said. Mallozzi also said he expected the entire Atlantis cast to be in the movie, plus “a certain gaunt and pallid flowing-locked guest star,” apparently referring to former cast member Amanda Tapping.

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Submitted by: BCW
1/10/2009 9:10:00 AM EST
Location: Earth
Occupation: Mechanical Engineer

Stargate Atlantis was just getting good.

I don''t watch the SciFi Channel for Wrestling or that silly Ghost Show "Ghost Chasers?". I do watch Eurika though because it does SciFi is meant to do "for engineers anyway" makes us think about how those gadgets would work.

Society benefits from StarTrek Stargate and the like because it insipres engineers, scientist to solve problems. Every techy hs a favorite episode of a SciFi program, just ask them.

You will always get a larger audiance by dumming things down. Over the years audiances get more sophisticated and will not once popular drek.

Wrestling on the SCiFi channel is waste of cash,I would rather watch a rerun of any SciFi program. Maybee SciFi could create Ghost Wrestlers and kill one the silly programs and make something decent instead. In 10 years I don''t think they will be making any money of reruns.

About SGU I didn''t watch a lot of first run Voyager or Lost. The Giligans Island theme does not do it for me unless it''s back to back rereuns.

I will watch the new SGU series until they do something silly and then wait for reruns.



Submitted by: Tom Tsai
9/8/2008 4:15:00 PM EDT
Location: Georgia
Occupation: Quality manager

I know leaving my comments on this place would probably receive little to no attentions. But, I've read thru every comments that I come across on this forum and felt with the rest of the fan bases' responses.

A few pts I'd like to make here.
When the Friday 3hr blocks of SG1, SGA, and BSG were in action, it was something I look forward to EVERY SINGLE FREAKIN WEEKEND. It was prob the only things I've truly enjoyed on TV that time. Even my ex was jealoused of the attentions I devoted to loyally watching it and sometimes watch it again on the rerun right afterwards. Thankfully, she took an interest on BSG but was always jealous of my affection for Amanda... gg

I hope those executives would read just some of these feedbacks of those that actually watch the ensembles of the triple features that locks in viewer's attention on friday night, but they had to greed themselves and break it up and ultimately shorten the lifespan of ALL THREE SHOWS....

After breaking them apart on show time, it really disturbed my interests in following the shows. Letting SG1 go that abruptly isn't something I'll ever forgive, and now premature cancellation of SGA is just the final kill blow to my confidence in this network.

Don't ever insult us by thinking you can shuffle a hack job w/o any original concept and treat us fans that'll embrace that show. You're dropping SGA cuz it's reached the syndication required yrs of airtime, and just looking to build another one for probable 3yr run for another syndication.

You ever think about fan loyalty toward a network might just simply dissipate due to your action?



Submitted by: Sue Booth
9/8/2008 2:58:00 PM EDT
Location: Jersey, United Kingdom
Occupation: Immaterial!

Katie Dawson and David V have said it all - perfectly. I can only add that everything the programme planners are saying has the smell of BS to it.

I'm in the UK and I've seen it happen too often - we fans have no more say in this than we do in anything else that is supposed to be to do with our rights - what's BEST for us?? Come on!!! It's all about money and bigger salaries - it cannot be about entertainment, or they would listen to the fans - just ONCE I wish they would listen to us ...



Submitted by: Katie Dawson
9/5/2008 9:20:00 PM EDT
Location: Colorado
Occupation:

"Bigger, kind of high-production-value" movies, as opposed to the big high-production value shows we already enjoy? Right, that sounds like a decision made for the fans, instead of lining some exec's pocket.

Not.

And you say that you inbox is so stuffed with our emails that you couldn't work and had to talk to IT? Wow. Maybe you should READ THEM AND LISTEN TO SGA'S FANS!!! It would be a nice alternative to trying to hook us on a new show that is blatantly a rip off of BSG.

Hmm, so you'll annoy the BSG fans who will have to learn a whole new universe's mythology, and piss off the SGA fans who are seeing thier show being blantantly sacrificed for one that is geared for a younger generation (who, my three year old niece? She likes the Wraith, by the way.)

Way to offend and subsequently lose two whole fandoms at once.

No, really, bravo.



That takes a special kind of stupidity.

Perhaps instead of implying that the SGA and BSG fanbases are full of mindless sheep who will fanatically follow whatever show you shove at them, you could take a moment to read those thousands of messages in your inbox and see what your fans actually think for themselves.



Submitted by: SGA14
9/3/2008 4:36:00 PM EDT
Location: USA
Occupation: paralegal

ok i will call stargate universe (STARGATE-90210) stupid mr howe i hope he got my letters and lemons they should change their slogan to "THE SCI-FI CHANNEL WHERE ALL DRUGGIE MORONS COME TO GET THEIR NEXT FIX"



Submitted by: Atlantis Jackson aka Amanda
8/30/2008 2:58:00 PM EDT
Location: Indianapolis
Occupation: Stargate Atlantis fan!

Stargate fans don't want a "fix" we want Atlantis. We don't want a space based show that obviously people have had enough of. You're trying to rip off the Star Trek franchise. People are over Star Trek (sadly), Enterprise was the "one too many trips to the well".
It sounds to me like Scifi and MGM, rather than appreciating the audience they have now and worrying about keeping them, they're trying to soak up the fans that are being left by the cancellation of BSG. Stargate Universe will never work the way BSG did because Stargate and BSG are two TOTALLY different shows. Stargate can't be as dark as BSG is and survive.
We need to stay away from a space based Stargate show.
Don't think that Stargate fans will watch Universe simply because it had Stargate in the title. Scifi and MGM are not only betraying the fans of the franchise, they're betraying everything that Stargate stands for!
There is a pattern here people. Farscape was high rated and they canceled that. The Invisible man was high rated and they canceled that. SG1 was high rated and they canceled that. SGA is high rated and they canceled that!
After the 100th episode of Atlantis... I have no reason to turn on the scifi channel!
Get rid of wrestling and keep Atlantis!!!!!



Submitted by: Jason Blomgren AKA CRASH
8/28/2008 10:21:00 PM EDT
Location: Florida
Occupation: Private

Mark Stern & Bonnie Hammer must go!!!! All us loyal fans know these names for they are as bad as the Gaul'd and the wraith in these shows.. they are the real reason these shows have come to an end, and untill these people are removed these shows will never be able to return!!! protest against these people... Contact there bosses..... which the main boss of them both is : Jeff Immelt



Submitted by: Jason Blomgren AKA CRASH
8/28/2008 10:12:00 PM EDT
Location: Florida
Occupation: Private

What is it gonna take for these ediots to finnaly relize what damage they have truely done?? (Sniff,Sniff) I smell a huge boycott in the mist.... whoops.. oh my.... have to go guys... Wrestling is now showing on the "SCIFI" network... now there is scifi at its best... Sounds like people are getting greedy inregards to the upcoming dvd relises.. SPIKE (channel) is more science fiction then the so called "scifi" channel--- maybe we should all pettion that network to get the stargate contract.. You exec's are truely a bunch of pricks... thank you so much for all of the fans considerations and addressing our thoughts and concerns... anyone feel like talking about this email me anytime bigpoppabear01@yahoo.com



Submitted by: ej reeder
8/28/2008 1:23:00 AM EDT
Location: alaska
Occupation:

honest to pete, what's wrong with those people? they xx SG1,BSG and now SGA & have eureka on the bubble, all the while extending ghost hunters, ghost hunters international, destination truth (or whatever the name of the silly program is) and WRESTLING?!?!? good grief on a stick, do they have any idea what it is people actually like? do they care? apparently not. ok, i've had enough, go ahead and program more inane, asinine, moronic shows geared to those with the IQ of a house plant, you won't have to worry about me tuning in, i'll go READ some good scifi.



Submitted by: Rob G.
8/28/2008 12:00:00 AM EDT
Location: Burlington Ontario Canada
Occupation: author

This is really ridiculous. SF channel only has a handful of good shows and SA is at the top of most lists. Why on earth these SF people can't leave well enough alone is beyond me. Don't they know anything about television history? It was NBC (SCIFI's owner) that cancelled the original Star Trek after three years. Today Paramount makes $750,000 a year from each of the 72 episodes. (NBC gets nothing) Instead of constantly whining about the cost of buying the show from MGM, why the heck doesn't NBC get off the pot and co-produce the show with MGM so they get long term residuals? I bet they wouldn't be so keen to cancel it then.




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