Gemstar Eyes Big MSO Licenses


Gemstar-TV Guide International Inc. executives said the company had recently
engaged in positive talks with Time Warner Cable and Cablevision Systems Corp.
about licensing its interactive program guide.

A deal to license TV Guide Interactive to Time Warner would be a huge coup
for Gemstar. The MSO currently has 2.85 million subscribers that use
Scientific-Atlanta Inc.'s 'Sara' or Pioneer New Media Technologies Inc.'s
'Passport' IPGs.

Gemstar has patent-infringement suits pending against S-A and Pioneer in a
federal court in Atlanta. And a suit Gemstar filed against Pioneer, S-A and
EchoStar Communications Corp. at the International Trade Commission is scheduled
to go to trial Dec. 3.

Executives at Gemstar have maintained that an IPG-licensing deal the company
signed with America Online Inc. in 1999 -- before AOL merged with Time Warner
Inc. -- would compel Time Warner to replace its Sara and Passport IPGs with TV
Guide Interactive.

Gemstar co-president Peter Boylan said Wednesday during a conference call
that he had encouraging talks recently with Time Warner Cable CEO Glen Britt and
other MSO executives.

Negotiations have involved modifying Gemstar's license agreement with AOL,
and they addressed issues such as including advertising with the IPG, Boylan

Boylan also noted that Gemstar held IPG-licensing talks with Cablevision
earlier this month during which that MSO's executives 'expressed interest and
desire to license our technology.'

Cablevision developed its own simple IPG for its 'iO: Interactive Optimum'
digital package that rolled out in late September.

Boylan -- whose company has taken several competitors to court for alleged
patent violations -- suggested that Cablevision could face the wrath of
Gemstar's legal team if it doesn't come to terms. 'Absent of a license, we will
aggressively protect our technology,' he added.

Another source confirmed that Cablevision is talking with Gemstar about
licensing TV Guide Interactive, but the company believes its current IPG doesn't
violate Gemstar patents. Cablevision officials declined to comment.

Gemstar is also in talks with Cox Communications Inc. about converting all of
its subscribers to TV Guide Interactive, Boylan said. About one-half of the MSOs
1.28 million digital subscribers already have Gemstar's IPG, he added.

Boylan also threw some gasoline into the bitter battle the company is waging
in its patent suit with EchoStar and its CEO, Charlie Ergen, borrowing a phrase
President Bush used recently to attack Afghanistan's Taliban militia.

'You can run, and you can hide, but we are determined to smoke you out
wherever you might be,' Boylan said of Ergen.

The Gemstar co-president added that Ergen's recent agreement to acquire
DirecTV Inc. could motivate the company to settle 'because he has so much more
to lose.'

EchoStar officials couldn't be reached for comment

Gemstar, which reported fourth-quarter earnings Wednesday, said sales in its
interactive-platform sector increased 339 percent to $29.2 million compared with
the same period last year. Its loss in the sector narrowed to $4.7 million from
$12.3 million.

Revenue from its technology and licensing sector jumped 30 percent to $82.1